New Age Spirituality - Spirituality Interview ( Q2 )

Yanik Silver: Thank you. Well, you just said somethingsomewhat like a Star Track episode. And we are
before that that I thought is interesting and, you know,born into this world with agreements where we agree
we should talk on. And you said that we are meant tothat okay, I'll be born without a leg. I will be born to a
be healthy. And I will assume that the same way youfamily that is going to abuse me. But during that period,
said we are meant to be healthy, that we are meantI will grow and become something very special.
to be rich and we are meant to be happy, Why areWho knows that Wayne Dyer, for example, was an
people and how do we get back to this natural stateorphan. He was in foster homes for a long time. There
of where we are meant to be?are so many other who were blind or deaf. They
John Harricharan: Okay. Yes, that's how we werechose these things except you don't remember when
born. We were born. We came here with certainyou get caught up on the earth life that you did
agreements, because I do not believe we just poppedchoose it. And yet some of us say, especially me, I
up in this earth. And there are a whole bunch of mysay that contract we signed before we came here, at
friends and people who think of it this way. Take forthe bottom of it, it says "Subject to change for any
example, you and I have talked about Richard Bach,reason at anytime without any penalties." So we can
the author of Jonathan Livingston Seagull.quit the game anytime we want, which means if we
Yanik Silver: Right.are perfect to start with and religions, many of them
John Harricharan: I have told you about Brad Steiger,teaches that we're not -- we are a kind of a clod of
Elisabeth Kubler-Ross, Deepak, many of us, who feelclay.
that we have lived forever, if you will. In fact, withinAnd now, we've got a start becoming something in the
each and every one of us is this feeling like the Poetpotter's hand. And some of us think that, "No, we are
says, 'A certain murmur in the soul tells of a world toperfect to start with almost like the David's statue in
be'. As travelers hear the billows roll before they reachthe stone. It's there all the time. And all we've got to do
the sea.'is create the way, learn, grow and use the tools we
So if we sit back quietly and listen, we will feel thingshave. So that that beautiful statue of David will come
from other times and other places, and it's totally, totallyout or so that that beautiful part within us will come
against my thinking that let's assume this has nothing toout."
do with God or whichever one there is who -- like aTherefore, I do not believe that disease is a natural
worship or a lack God or anything, it just has to dothing for a human being. I think we are hypnotized by
with a kind of a feeling within ourselves that if there isadvertisements, by all the kinds of things we see
a God and I do believe there is a higher power, thenaround us, by fear, by medicine, by everything else.
this God has got to be really nuts...if he or she isWho was that I was talking with and he wrote it in his
perfect to create things that are defective, forbook- Deepak Chopra. Deepak and I go back many,
goodness' sakes, if I were to go to buy a DVD playermany years, to a time when people thought that that
and it's defective, I'd return it. So it came to me at aDeepak was probably a rare Chinese disease. And
very early age and from listening to some of theDeepak and I were talking about ageing and growing
masters of the Far East talk, some of the Yogiold and dying.
masters, I thought no, we were not born defective. WeAnd he quoted a Greek, who said, "People grow old
were born with all the potential we could ever want orand die because they see other people getting old and
have, and that we may have existed before, whichdying." And so it is where there is a kind of a joint
some people call past lives, I call alternate existencesenergy is formed, where we are influenced by the
and so forth. It doesn't matter what name we give to it.energy around us, and we in turn influence that energy.
And so we may have agreed to come here.So in our natural state, we should be healthy.
For example, let us say that I and a bunch of us areLet's take Abraham or Moses or all the way down
traveling through the universe, no body, no physicalthrough Jesus into any of the other ones. Jesus saying
body, but just a beautiful little points of light, if you will, ato his mom, "Hey mom, I got to go to the drugs store,
spirit that you can't see. But we're totally conscious.because I need some Aspirins or Abraham saying,
And we are passing by and one of us says to the"You know, Send out the camel boy to get me
other, "Hey, let's stop by earth. There it is, way in thesomething because I'm not feeling too well." I think
distance. It looks blue. Let's stop by earth and seemany of these people were able to transcend the
what they are up to today or these days. And it's 21stneed for that by doing a number of very interesting
century or 20th century."things.
And we get here and we start looking at them or weNumber one, stilling the conversations in their minds, the
somehow maybe we can help them do some littlelongest conversation that keeps going on from the day
thing. I have done all these other things. And so it iswe were born is the one we have with ourselves...